Travellers pitch up in Surbiton

The traveller camp in Kingston

The traveller camp in Kingston

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Travellers who packed up their caravans and left Fairfield recreation ground have pitched up in Surbiton’s Fish Ponds.

The news came just hours after the travellers left the Fairfield site after Kingston County Court ruled they were parked illegally.

A spokesman for Kingston Council said they were aware of the move and were currently reviewing the situation.

The Surrey Comet understands Greater London Authority councillor for South West London, Tony Arbour, has written to Kingston Council chief executive Bruce McDonald urging him to address the situation with travellers in Kingston.

The five caravans arrived on the Fairfield in Kingston after driving in through a gap in fencing on Monday, June 18 at about 2.45pm.

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10:26am Thu 28 Jun 12

UKIP Surbiton says...

Took the dog for a walk there this morning ... met with the gracious greeting '' what the f**K are you looking at '' .. I hope the Police are going to make sure they move on asap .
Took the dog for a walk there this morning ... met with the gracious greeting '' what the f**K are you looking at '' .. I hope the Police are going to make sure they move on asap . UKIP Surbiton
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11:06am Thu 28 Jun 12

DB says...

This is getting ridiculous now! Are we going to have to secure all of our public spaces to stop these people getting in?

How much is that going to cost?
This is getting ridiculous now! Are we going to have to secure all of our public spaces to stop these people getting in? How much is that going to cost? DB
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1:34pm Thu 28 Jun 12

richarddonnelly says...

UKIP are racist liars. I wouldn't listen to a party with so many connections to the Nazi BNP.

No one Alan Sked, founder of UKIP, said "UKIP are a racist party and have been infected by the far right." Absolutely typical racist lying, aimed at whipping up hatred.

You're talking about a group of people who have been shunted around with a pregnant woman and a sick child, and had fireworks thrown at them.
UKIP are racist liars. I wouldn't listen to a party with so many connections to the Nazi BNP. No one Alan Sked, founder of UKIP, said "UKIP are a racist party and have been infected by the far right." Absolutely typical racist lying, aimed at whipping up hatred. You're talking about a group of people who have been shunted around with a pregnant woman and a sick child, and had fireworks thrown at them. richarddonnelly
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2:39pm Thu 28 Jun 12

1ou1se says...

this is so stupid you call yourselves travellers then accuse people of shunting you around i had measles as a kid you just stay in bed end of or go to hospital there is no excuse for parking up on our parks if you want to set up home then buy some land like other people and build your home i dont pay my taxes to have to pay for the council to go through courts to evict you and clean up after you everyone in the kingston borough suffers for you
this is so stupid you call yourselves travellers then accuse people of shunting you around i had measles as a kid you just stay in bed end of or go to hospital there is no excuse for parking up on our parks if you want to set up home then buy some land like other people and build your home i dont pay my taxes to have to pay for the council to go through courts to evict you and clean up after you everyone in the kingston borough suffers for you 1ou1se
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2:50pm Thu 28 Jun 12

Prince Philip of Greece says...

UKIP Surbiton wrote:
Took the dog for a walk there this morning ... met with the gracious greeting '' what the f**K are you looking at '' .. I hope the Police are going to make sure they move on asap .
Fishpond Park is hyge - approx 13.5 acres. I'm sure you'll find trouble if you go looking for it hard enough.
[quote][p][bold]UKIP Surbiton[/bold] wrote: Took the dog for a walk there this morning ... met with the gracious greeting '' what the f**K are you looking at '' .. I hope the Police are going to make sure they move on asap .[/p][/quote]Fishpond Park is hyge - approx 13.5 acres. I'm sure you'll find trouble if you go looking for it hard enough. Prince Philip of Greece
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2:52pm Thu 28 Jun 12

Prince Philip of Greece says...

DB wrote:
This is getting ridiculous now! Are we going to have to secure all of our public spaces to stop these people getting in?

How much is that going to cost?
YES, DB.

People getting into public spaces? Whatever next..??
[quote][p][bold]DB[/bold] wrote: This is getting ridiculous now! Are we going to have to secure all of our public spaces to stop these people getting in? How much is that going to cost?[/p][/quote]YES, DB. People getting into public spaces? Whatever next..?? Prince Philip of Greece
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3:58pm Thu 28 Jun 12

DB says...

Prince Philip of Greece wrote:
UKIP Surbiton wrote: Took the dog for a walk there this morning ... met with the gracious greeting '' what the f**K are you looking at '' .. I hope the Police are going to make sure they move on asap .
Fishpond Park is hyge - approx 13.5 acres. I'm sure you'll find trouble if you go looking for it hard enough.
It sounds to me as though it is going to be much easier to find trouble there at the moment, though.

Kingston council actually seem to have acted relatively quickly to rid the Fairfield of this problem, so hopefully they will do the same again for Fishponds.
[quote][p][bold]Prince Philip of Greece[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]UKIP Surbiton[/bold] wrote: Took the dog for a walk there this morning ... met with the gracious greeting '' what the f**K are you looking at '' .. I hope the Police are going to make sure they move on asap .[/p][/quote]Fishpond Park is hyge - approx 13.5 acres. I'm sure you'll find trouble if you go looking for it hard enough.[/p][/quote]It sounds to me as though it is going to be much easier to find trouble there at the moment, though. Kingston council actually seem to have acted relatively quickly to rid the Fairfield of this problem, so hopefully they will do the same again for Fishponds. DB
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7:24pm Thu 28 Jun 12

DB says...

Prince Philip of Greece wrote:
DB wrote:
This is getting ridiculous now! Are we going to have to secure all of our public spaces to stop these people getting in?

How much is that going to cost?
YES, DB.

People getting into public spaces? Whatever next..??
I'd prefer the people that pay for the park to be able to use it rather than it be squatted in by the lot.

I am still not sure if your comments are actually serious, but I guess we will see how many people agree.
[quote][p][bold]Prince Philip of Greece[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DB[/bold] wrote: This is getting ridiculous now! Are we going to have to secure all of our public spaces to stop these people getting in? How much is that going to cost?[/p][/quote]YES, DB. People getting into public spaces? Whatever next..??[/p][/quote]I'd prefer the people that pay for the park to be able to use it rather than it be squatted in by the lot. I am still not sure if your comments are actually serious, but I guess we will see how many people agree. DB
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8:50pm Thu 28 Jun 12

richarddonnelly says...

Yeah, only those who pay for it. Ban unemployed people, children and dogs too.

Look, it's some caravans in a massive field. If it was a few people on holiday who spoke with your accent and got your income, you wouldn't give a tupenny.
Yeah, only those who pay for it. Ban unemployed people, children and dogs too. Look, it's some caravans in a massive field. If it was a few people on holiday who spoke with your accent and got your income, you wouldn't give a tupenny. richarddonnelly
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10:18pm Thu 28 Jun 12

@Driver_H says...

richarddonnelly wrote:
Yeah, only those who pay for it. Ban unemployed people, children and dogs too.

Look, it's some caravans in a massive field. If it was a few people on holiday who spoke with your accent and got your income, you wouldn't give a tupenny.
Get lost
[quote][p][bold]richarddonnelly[/bold] wrote: Yeah, only those who pay for it. Ban unemployed people, children and dogs too. Look, it's some caravans in a massive field. If it was a few people on holiday who spoke with your accent and got your income, you wouldn't give a tupenny.[/p][/quote]Get lost @Driver_H
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11:23pm Thu 28 Jun 12

richarddonnelly says...

Nice argument, lol.
Nice argument, lol. richarddonnelly
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11:26pm Thu 28 Jun 12

richarddonnelly says...

If only all the bigots in Kingston were as eloquent as this Driver_H lad.
If only all the bigots in Kingston were as eloquent as this Driver_H lad. richarddonnelly
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11:36pm Thu 28 Jun 12

QPR4Me says...

"Travellers" do not wish to conform to the norms of society. As "refusniks", they then have no right to expect anything from society. Move on, and keep moving, or settle (by which I mean in housing, not ilegally parked caravans) and live by the law of the land. It's a simple choice
"Travellers" do not wish to conform to the norms of society. As "refusniks", they then have no right to expect anything from society. Move on, and keep moving, or settle (by which I mean in housing, not ilegally parked caravans) and live by the law of the land. It's a simple choice QPR4Me
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11:40pm Thu 28 Jun 12

QPR4Me says...

Sorry for they typo, that should've read "illegally".
Sorry for they typo, that should've read "illegally". QPR4Me
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11:42pm Thu 28 Jun 12

QPR4Me says...

Not my night. "the", not "they".
Not my night. "the", not "they". QPR4Me
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12:05am Fri 29 Jun 12

OhThisBloodyPC says...

As far as I know, nobody has mentioned the ethnicity of the white van invaders.

Apart from their cheer leaders, who insist anyone who objects to these lawbreakers is 'racist'.

So, in other words, Mr Donnelly and Prince Philip, your entire argument is based on racial grounds.

What's the word for someone who's views are entirely coloured by prejudice over one's race?

Oooh, it'll come to me in a minute.

Sorry to disappoint you, but Race is not an issue in this case, as the travellers look remarkably pale.

It's a question of community. Who contributes, who observes the laws we are all governed by, who socialises with people in the area.

Why would any public spirited, civic minded person want to sympathise with these anti-socialists?

Unless of course, you were a racist.

Think about it.

It's time you gave these issues some thought, instead of trotting out the same glib insulting, depressingly stupid response to anyone who disagrees with your narrow world view.
As far as I know, nobody has mentioned the ethnicity of the white van invaders. Apart from their cheer leaders, who insist anyone who objects to these lawbreakers is 'racist'. So, in other words, Mr Donnelly and Prince Philip, your entire argument is based on racial grounds. What's the word for someone who's views are entirely coloured by prejudice over one's race? Oooh, it'll come to me in a minute. Sorry to disappoint you, but Race is not an issue in this case, as the travellers look remarkably pale. It's a question of community. Who contributes, who observes the laws we are all governed by, who socialises with people in the area. Why would any public spirited, civic minded person want to sympathise with these anti-socialists? Unless of course, you were a racist. Think about it. It's time you gave these issues some thought, instead of trotting out the same glib insulting, depressingly stupid response to anyone who disagrees with your narrow world view. OhThisBloodyPC
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9:08am Fri 29 Jun 12

DB says...

richarddonnelly wrote:
Yeah, only those who pay for it. Ban unemployed people, children and dogs too. Look, it's some caravans in a massive field. If it was a few people on holiday who spoke with your accent and got your income, you wouldn't give a tupenny.
I just can't understand this view. I know that there is the classic left wing ideal that people should be able to do what they want when they want, but I just don't see how that can work in our society as it stands.

You are correct in saying that this is just a few caravans in a field at the moment, but what happens if even 1% of the total population of the country see this lot getting a free ride and decide to have a go themselves?

Whilst that is probably the beginning of some sort of utopia to you, I think that a lot of people might view it as a bit of a problem.
[quote][p][bold]richarddonnelly[/bold] wrote: Yeah, only those who pay for it. Ban unemployed people, children and dogs too. Look, it's some caravans in a massive field. If it was a few people on holiday who spoke with your accent and got your income, you wouldn't give a tupenny.[/p][/quote]I just can't understand this view. I know that there is the classic left wing ideal that people should be able to do what they want when they want, but I just don't see how that can work in our society as it stands. You are correct in saying that this is just a few caravans in a field at the moment, but what happens if even 1% of the total population of the country see this lot getting a free ride and decide to have a go themselves? Whilst that is probably the beginning of some sort of utopia to you, I think that a lot of people might view it as a bit of a problem. DB
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9:12am Fri 29 Jun 12

DB says...

OhThisBloodyPC wrote:
As far as I know, nobody has mentioned the ethnicity of the white van invaders. Apart from their cheer leaders, who insist anyone who objects to these lawbreakers is 'racist'. So, in other words, Mr Donnelly and Prince Philip, your entire argument is based on racial grounds. What's the word for someone who's views are entirely coloured by prejudice over one's race? Oooh, it'll come to me in a minute. Sorry to disappoint you, but Race is not an issue in this case, as the travellers look remarkably pale. It's a question of community. Who contributes, who observes the laws we are all governed by, who socialises with people in the area. Why would any public spirited, civic minded person want to sympathise with these anti-socialists? Unless of course, you were a racist. Think about it. It's time you gave these issues some thought, instead of trotting out the same glib insulting, depressingly stupid response to anyone who disagrees with your narrow world view.
Exactly right. One of them started waffling on about UKIP earlier, seemingly just because one of the other commenters is affiliated to that party, even though they made no reference to it in their comment whatsoever.

These people seem to respond with the same argument to every issue, regardless of what it is.
[quote][p][bold]OhThisBloodyPC[/bold] wrote: As far as I know, nobody has mentioned the ethnicity of the white van invaders. Apart from their cheer leaders, who insist anyone who objects to these lawbreakers is 'racist'. So, in other words, Mr Donnelly and Prince Philip, your entire argument is based on racial grounds. What's the word for someone who's views are entirely coloured by prejudice over one's race? Oooh, it'll come to me in a minute. Sorry to disappoint you, but Race is not an issue in this case, as the travellers look remarkably pale. It's a question of community. Who contributes, who observes the laws we are all governed by, who socialises with people in the area. Why would any public spirited, civic minded person want to sympathise with these anti-socialists? Unless of course, you were a racist. Think about it. It's time you gave these issues some thought, instead of trotting out the same glib insulting, depressingly stupid response to anyone who disagrees with your narrow world view.[/p][/quote]Exactly right. One of them started waffling on about UKIP earlier, seemingly just because one of the other commenters is affiliated to that party, even though they made no reference to it in their comment whatsoever. These people seem to respond with the same argument to every issue, regardless of what it is. DB
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9:14am Fri 29 Jun 12

Prince Philip of Greece says...

Gypsies and Travellers have protection under the Race Relations Act. Many of the comments made about Gypsies and Travellers would be seen immediately as racist if they were made about other ethnic groups.

Meanwhile, Gypsies and Travellers are entitled to help from the Council if they have nowhere safe and permanent to live.
Gypsies and Travellers have protection under the Race Relations Act. Many of the comments made about Gypsies and Travellers would be seen immediately as racist if they were made about other ethnic groups. Meanwhile, Gypsies and Travellers are entitled to help from the Council if they have nowhere safe and permanent to live. Prince Philip of Greece
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9:44am Fri 29 Jun 12

DB says...

Prince Philip of Greece wrote:
Gypsies and Travellers have protection under the Race Relations Act. Many of the comments made about Gypsies and Travellers would be seen immediately as racist if they were made about other ethnic groups. Meanwhile, Gypsies and Travellers are entitled to help from the Council if they have nowhere safe and permanent to live.
Very true, but I don't consider my own comments to be particularly racist as I would feel exactly the same way if boring middle class British people pitched up in a public park and claimed it as their own.
[quote][p][bold]Prince Philip of Greece[/bold] wrote: Gypsies and Travellers have protection under the Race Relations Act. Many of the comments made about Gypsies and Travellers would be seen immediately as racist if they were made about other ethnic groups. Meanwhile, Gypsies and Travellers are entitled to help from the Council if they have nowhere safe and permanent to live.[/p][/quote]Very true, but I don't consider my own comments to be particularly racist as I would feel exactly the same way if boring middle class British people pitched up in a public park and claimed it as their own. DB
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10:48am Fri 29 Jun 12

Prince Philip of Greece says...

DB "not particularly racist".

Well that's alright then.
DB "not particularly racist". Well that's alright then. Prince Philip of Greece
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11:41am Fri 29 Jun 12

DB says...

Prince Philip of Greece wrote:
DB "not particularly racist". Well that's alright then.
The reason I wrote that is that looking back over my past comments on this issue, I did once allege that travellers settling in an area might lead to an increase in crime.

I still believe that this is likely to be true, but since I can't support it with actual evidence I must concede that it was a bit of a racist comment.

I don't think that any of my other comments have been racist in any way.
[quote][p][bold]Prince Philip of Greece[/bold] wrote: DB "not particularly racist". Well that's alright then.[/p][/quote]The reason I wrote that is that looking back over my past comments on this issue, I did once allege that travellers settling in an area might lead to an increase in crime. I still believe that this is likely to be true, but since I can't support it with actual evidence I must concede that it was a bit of a racist comment. I don't think that any of my other comments have been racist in any way. DB
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1:52pm Fri 29 Jun 12

Prince Philip of Greece says...

@DB: good man, well done.
@DB: good man, well done. Prince Philip of Greece
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4:15pm Fri 29 Jun 12

QPR4Me says...

DB.
You didn't say anything wrong. From my experience of travellers, back home in Ireland, there is a clear increase in crime when they come to town. This ranges from small time thefts and break-ins, such as stealing my father's ducks in the months before he died, and trying to sell people "laptops" that turn out to be bottles of water, all the way up with vicious family feuds where people are killed or maimed. As a result, the Garda shift them on very quickly before the "locals" take any necessary measures to protect themselves. As the area is farmed, this of course means that farmers are armed and both the Garda and the "Travellers" know it.
DB. You didn't say anything wrong. From my experience of travellers, back home in Ireland, there is a clear increase in crime when they come to town. This ranges from small time thefts and break-ins, such as stealing my father's ducks in the months before he died, and trying to sell people "laptops" that turn out to be bottles of water, all the way up with vicious family feuds where people are killed or maimed. As a result, the Garda shift them on very quickly before the "locals" take any necessary measures to protect themselves. As the area is farmed, this of course means that farmers are armed and both the Garda and the "Travellers" know it. QPR4Me
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7:37am Sat 30 Jun 12

Beverly RA says...

Lucky Kingston, Some time ago my wife and I were on our way to Southsea, just before arriving we saw dozens of Caravans parked along side of the road, some we just sitting there with mobile phones in their hands.
We drove on for about a mile and saw two small caravans drive over a pavement and through a gap where two wooden posts had somehow been removed. at that moment a police car arrived as if from nowhere and blocked off the entrance leaving the two caravans blocked in, as we drove on the we saw more caravans and driver on mobiles talking. there is no doubt that the quick action by the police stopped a much larger problem. Traverler are well organised, as I say Kingston was lucky.
Lucky Kingston, Some time ago my wife and I were on our way to Southsea, just before arriving we saw dozens of Caravans parked along side of the road, some we just sitting there with mobile phones in their hands. We drove on for about a mile and saw two small caravans drive over a pavement and through a gap where two wooden posts had somehow been removed. at that moment a police car arrived as if from nowhere and blocked off the entrance leaving the two caravans blocked in, as we drove on the we saw more caravans and driver on mobiles talking. there is no doubt that the quick action by the police stopped a much larger problem. Traverler are well organised, as I say Kingston was lucky. Beverly RA
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1:52pm Sat 30 Jun 12

bystander tolworth says...

Where's Dave Dawson when you need him - send a message to Shoreham PDQ!!
Where's Dave Dawson when you need him - send a message to Shoreham PDQ!! bystander tolworth
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7:56am Mon 2 Jul 12

lordofzombies says...

when's the wedding?
when's the wedding? lordofzombies
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10:27am Mon 2 Jul 12

Prince Philip of Greece says...

@QPR4ME - this is the problem with lazy stereotyping: how do you know if the Travellers in Surbiton are of Irish descent, or English Travellers, or Romanies?

Or does it not really matter, if you're happy just to tar everbody with the same brush?

I knew some Irish people once: they exploded bombs and shot at soldiers. Are all Irish people like that?
@QPR4ME - this is the problem with lazy stereotyping: how do you know if the Travellers in Surbiton are of Irish descent, or English Travellers, or Romanies? Or does it not really matter, if you're happy just to tar everbody with the same brush? I knew some Irish people once: they exploded bombs and shot at soldiers. Are all Irish people like that? Prince Philip of Greece
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12:49pm Mon 2 Jul 12

fedup58 says...

Haing had First hand experience of how "Travellers" leave behind the land they have illegaly occupied I sympathise with any law abiding resident whether unemployed or not. Crime rates do rise that is a fact that cannot be disputed. The so called Travellers choose not to conform but it appears the General Public are supposed to put up and shut up. Why should we? I am not being racist but realist nobody wants this sort of disruption in their neighourhood. The Police should have greater powers to just move them on instead of having to wait for courts decisions. There is a Travellers site in Claygate someone give them the address, maybe they will go of there own free will.
Haing had First hand experience of how "Travellers" leave behind the land they have illegaly occupied I sympathise with any law abiding resident whether unemployed or not. Crime rates do rise that is a fact that cannot be disputed. The so called Travellers choose not to conform but it appears the General Public are supposed to put up and shut up. Why should we? I am not being racist but realist nobody wants this sort of disruption in their neighourhood. The Police should have greater powers to just move them on instead of having to wait for courts decisions. There is a Travellers site in Claygate someone give them the address, maybe they will go of there own free will. fedup58
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2:16pm Mon 2 Jul 12

Prince Philip of Greece says...

@everyone:

"I am not being racist but..."

Classic!!
@everyone: "I am not being racist but..." Classic!! Prince Philip of Greece
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2:48pm Mon 2 Jul 12

fedup58 says...

I hope they move into Phillip of Greece's neighbourhood, maybe he would welcome them with open arms, let him experience what it is like. Then maybe he would understand. I detest so called do gooders who just do not have a clue about life.
I hope they move into Phillip of Greece's neighbourhood, maybe he would welcome them with open arms, let him experience what it is like. Then maybe he would understand. I detest so called do gooders who just do not have a clue about life. fedup58
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2:58pm Mon 2 Jul 12

Prince Philip of Greece says...

Oops, bad shot. I live c. 200 yards from the Traveller site at Swallow Park.

For my part, I detest racists.
Oops, bad shot. I live c. 200 yards from the Traveller site at Swallow Park. For my part, I detest racists. Prince Philip of Greece
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3:00pm Mon 2 Jul 12

fedup58 says...

I detest do gooders!
I detest do gooders! fedup58
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4:41pm Mon 2 Jul 12

Prince Philip of Greece says...

fedup58 wrote:
I detest do gooders!
I quite understand, most racists hate do gooders.
[quote][p][bold]fedup58[/bold] wrote: I detest do gooders![/p][/quote]I quite understand, most racists hate do gooders. Prince Philip of Greece
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4:46pm Mon 2 Jul 12

fedup58 says...

I am not a racist you maybe extremely misinformed as to what you consider a racist but I am too much of a lady to type exactly what I would call you. It probably would not be printable.
I am not a racist you maybe extremely misinformed as to what you consider a racist but I am too much of a lady to type exactly what I would call you. It probably would not be printable. fedup58
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5:28pm Mon 2 Jul 12

QPR4Me says...

Prince Phillip of Greece,

You sir, are a wind up merchant. Most of the travelling "community" in this country is of Irish extract. It has grown in recent years due to the Irish Govt taking steps to forcibly settle these people.
BTW: I am not "Stereotyping", have you ever seen a "travellers" fight? I doubt it, otherwise you would know how long it takes to wash the blood and bits of body parts away!
Prince Phillip of Greece, You sir, are a wind up merchant. Most of the travelling "community" in this country is of Irish extract. It has grown in recent years due to the Irish Govt taking steps to forcibly settle these people. BTW: I am not "Stereotyping", have you ever seen a "travellers" fight? I doubt it, otherwise you would know how long it takes to wash the blood and bits of body parts away! QPR4Me
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8:47pm Mon 2 Jul 12

OhThisBloodyPC says...

Prince Philip of Greece,

Why do you need to obsess about the race of people in this case? It is of no relevance.

There is a word for blinkered people who pre-judge other people, purely on the basis of their race.

you seem to be projecting your hang ups onto other people.

you also seem to be anxious to stir and exploit race tensions where none exist.

You should be careful, you could get arrested for hate crimes.
Prince Philip of Greece, Why do you need to obsess about the race of people in this case? It is of no relevance. There is a word for blinkered people who pre-judge other people, purely on the basis of their race. you seem to be projecting your hang ups onto other people. you also seem to be anxious to stir and exploit race tensions where none exist. You should be careful, you could get arrested for hate crimes. OhThisBloodyPC
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10:08pm Mon 2 Jul 12

fedup58 says...

Aah at last Philip of Greece you show your true colours. Anybody who has an opinion that does not agree with you is obviously a racist perhaps you should change your name to Bully Boy it would suit you more than using a Royal obvious insult.
Aah at last Philip of Greece you show your true colours. Anybody who has an opinion that does not agree with you is obviously a racist perhaps you should change your name to Bully Boy it would suit you more than using a Royal obvious insult. fedup58
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12:26pm Tue 3 Jul 12

Noodles100 says...

Everyone is bickering back forth shouting "racist" and other things. Don't you think the welfare of the mum to be and the poor ill kid is really the important ones. Everybody no matter from where they live, come from, belief have the right for treatment!!! Yes there are people out there who travel round and cause trouble but surely is there not a saying "lets wait and see" OR give people a chance.and treat people how you would like to be treated!!!! Yes may pitch up on the fairfield and the fishponds but is the piles of rubbish is there load of screaming kids? Maybe the council could have a word with the guys near the A3 to put aside a space for groups who need to hold up for a while! You are all as bad as each other!! I feel ashamed reading some of these comments that residents of kingston and surrounding area can be like this !
Everyone is bickering back forth shouting "racist" and other things. Don't you think the welfare of the mum to be and the poor ill kid is really the important ones. Everybody no matter from where they live, come from, belief have the right for treatment!!! Yes there are people out there who travel round and cause trouble but surely is there not a saying "lets wait and see" OR give people a chance.and treat people how you would like to be treated!!!! Yes may pitch up on the fairfield and the fishponds but is the piles of rubbish is there load of screaming kids? Maybe the council could have a word with the guys near the A3 to put aside a space for groups who need to hold up for a while! You are all as bad as each other!! I feel ashamed reading some of these comments that residents of kingston and surrounding area can be like this ! Noodles100
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12:30pm Tue 3 Jul 12

Noodles100 says...

sorry should have read.."Yes maybe pitching up on the fairfield and fishponds was not the best places".....
sorry should have read.."Yes maybe pitching up on the fairfield and fishponds was not the best places"..... Noodles100
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1:14pm Tue 3 Jul 12

Prince Philip of Greece says...

To QPR etc. Let em explain...

Travellers are recognised by law as an ethnic minority. If you insult them AS A GROUP then you are probably very close to racism. If you say things about Travellers that you would not say about Jews or blacks, then you are probably very close to racism. If you suggest that e.g. crime in an area will go up because Travellers have moved nearby, then you are probably very close to racism. If you believe that Travellers have no place in Kingston simply because they are Travellers, then you are probably very close to racism. If you try and turn other people against Travellers because of your own prejudices, then you are probably very close to racism.
To QPR etc. Let em explain... Travellers are recognised by law as an ethnic minority. If you insult them AS A GROUP then you are probably very close to racism. If you say things about Travellers that you would not say about Jews or blacks, then you are probably very close to racism. If you suggest that e.g. crime in an area will go up because Travellers have moved nearby, then you are probably very close to racism. If you believe that Travellers have no place in Kingston simply because they are Travellers, then you are probably very close to racism. If you try and turn other people against Travellers because of your own prejudices, then you are probably very close to racism. Prince Philip of Greece
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1:16pm Tue 3 Jul 12

Prince Philip of Greece says...

If you I insult you by calling you racist - because you are a racist - then don't blame me.

I'm not insulting you; I'm simply describing you.
If you I insult you by calling you racist - because you are a racist - then don't blame me. I'm not insulting you; I'm simply describing you. Prince Philip of Greece
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2:22pm Tue 3 Jul 12

fedup58 says...

Anyone who camped, parked on the Fairfield or Fishponds would be breaking the law simply that they are commiting an offence and have to be removed. Does that make me racist against everyone or just a law abiding tax paying member of the public who is fedup with flouting of the laws of the land in the name of racism.
Anyone who camped, parked on the Fairfield or Fishponds would be breaking the law simply that they are commiting an offence and have to be removed. Does that make me racist against everyone or just a law abiding tax paying member of the public who is fedup with flouting of the laws of the land in the name of racism. fedup58
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