Hospital services panel criticised by Sutton Councillor

Services at St Helier are among those under threat

Services at St Helier are among those under threat

First published in News Kingston Guardian: Photograph of the Author by , Chief reporter covering Wandsworth

As St Helier hospital’s future hangs in the balance, Sutton Council has hit out at the panel recommending which hospital in SW London will lose its vital services.

As part of the NHS Better Services Better Value review, either St Helier, Croydon University or Kingston hospitals, will lose their Accident and Emergency and maternity department.

Councillor Colin Stears, executive member for adult social care and health, said: "Any process which decides the fate of local hospitals should be totally transparent and concentrate on local people having their say. This just isn’t happening.

"Next week important recommendations will be made by two panels. One is two thirds NHS directors and other, the financial panel, is entirely made up of NHS bureaucrats operating behind closed doors.

"There should be elected representatives for health on both panels and the scoring options must take into account public feeling. We will fight tooth and nail to retain A&E and maternity services for this borough."

A panel of 60 including representatives from each hospital trust, local authority members and community representatives will convene on May 9 and score each hospital as part of the decision into which should lose their A&E and maternity.

The scoring panel’s recommendation and a financial appraisal will be considered by the Better Services Better Value programme board who will make a recommendation to the joint board of NHS SW London PCTs on June 7.

A final recommendation will be put to public consultation which is expected to take about three months.

Councillor Mary Burstow, the chairwoman of the Health and Wellbeing Scrutiny Committee, is urging people to attend a Joint Scrutiny meeting on May 10 at 6.30pm in the Civic Offices.

There will be a chance to quiz the Better Services Better Value team on what will happen in the future.

St Helier, whose merger plans with St George’s Hospital in Tooting collapsed earlier this year, has the smallest A&E and obstetrics and the fewest users.

In 2010/11 St Helier’s A&E and maternity wards treated 84,926 people, Croydon University treated 110,065 patients and 88,186 were treated at Kingston Hospital.

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It has emerged that the body, NHS SW London, who are running the process, will be disbanded before the recommendations are implemented.

Dr Brendan Hudson, Sutton CCG lead, responded on behalf of the BSBV programme, and said: "The Better Services Better Value programme has been clinically led from the beginning.

"Each of the clinical working groups have made recommendations to how future services should be provided and these groups were co-chaired by a senior GP and a senior hospital clinician.

"Improving clinical services in south-west London will continue to be clinically-led following the transition to Clinical Commissioning Groups (CCGs) and the new Commissioning Board."

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4:44pm Fri 4 May 12

Michael Pantlin says...

So "it has emerged that the body, NHS SW London, who are running the process, will be disbanded before the recommendations are implemented." A hit and run tactic one would expect as part of the clandestine plan concocted in the corridors of power by Dark Distant Bureaucratic Forces to close St. Helier Hospital or reduce it to a community cottage hospital satellite for another - perhaps private company - yet to be announced.

Chuck all this management gobbledegook BSBV CCG Scoring in the jargon skip where it belongs. The only scoring that counts is the opinion of the local population who depend upon this good hospital and overall from my personal experience over 12 years I would score Haematology 10/10 and the rest of the Hospital 8/10 overall.

I agree with Councillor Colin Stears's analysis in the report above. The public is being manipulated, once "Patients First", now it's "Clinically Led", once it was "Better Services Closer to Home" (BSCH) now suddenly it's "Better Services Better Value" (BSBV), care on the cheap distant from home. My own concept where B stands for the faceless bureaucrats destroying our wonderful treat all District General Hospital would be abbreviated to BUFO.

Note the timing of this press release announcement softening you up for the imminent pronouncement: You've just expended your rare opportunity to vote in the elections so no danger of a protest affecting the CaMoron or Boris; £5m just allocated to St. Helier to expand it's minor injury A&E which we have already been told would be provided to the Hospital which was to lose its A&E Major facility.

The CaMoron and his Cleggy Glove Puppet have already bulldozed through the NHS (privatisation) Act against almost universal opposition and as it appeared in no party's manifesto you were not even allowed to vote on it. With the ink on the Act hardly dry the schmoozing events have already begun with the CG people being invited to hospitality meetings put on by the private companies greedy to grab our public NHS funds for their profits and executive funny money salaries.

Make sure you have your say and consider joining the public lobbying group 38 Degrees which is continuing to fight the battle for our wonderful, cherished NHS.
It's obvious what is going to happen. Once St. Helier A&E Majors Department is shut down 999 ambulances will take you as an emergency to a distant hospital in Tooting or Croydon or Kingston. Then when they assess you as needing admission they will not bring you back to St. Helier. You will instead join the queue - you can already wait three hours at St. George's A&E Tooting - and the crush and the competition for a bed in the other hospital which will push you out before you feel ready because they "need the bed" because they have cut out the St. Helier beds.

As the number of patients admitted to St. Helier Hospital wards decreases the Faceless Ones will start to shut down the wards and the beds they contain. With the already accomplished decimation of staff by the parachuted in hatchet man CEO and the bulldozers already planned to destroy Ferguson House named after a former MOH for Surrey the destruction of St. Helier Hospital will be complete.

In the future whenever you want any serious treatment it will be go to the gates of the former St. Helier DGH and get the new tram extension to Tooting or Croydon. As St. George's has smelt the rat being offered to them and not taken on St. Helier it would make sense for the Royal Marsden Sutton to do so. RMH is already running some community services in a new development and if you recall the new St. Helier Hospital was approved by the majority of those consulted to be built adjacent to the RMH complex by Sutton Hospital.

This would have saved money eg x-rays taken at St. Helier could be used by RMH instead of as now having to retake them because there is no structure for consulting them online. You may also recall the plan was scuppered by failed Health Secretary of the period the snooty Patricia Hewitt who blocked it because she wanted the new hospital built in a deprived area for jobs as though St. Helier Estate is full of unemployed brain surgeons etc.

When she discovered that she had not done her research and there was a legal encumbrance to building on the green opposite the present hospital she just washed her hands of her whole mess and walked away leaving chaos.

St. Helier is your hospital paid for by you, not the property of the politicians', nor the bureaucrats', nor the private companies. Don't let them get away with their dirty deeds and then at a later date have to rue it as you are desperate for treatment and are stuck in a traffic jam or stuck at home because there are no beds. If you think it won't happen remember the lovely, friendly and caring Carshalton War Memorial Hospital that was built by public subscription and somehow now is closed and a fence constructed around it with a private property sign.
So "it has emerged that the body, NHS SW London, who are running the process, will be disbanded before the recommendations are implemented." A hit and run tactic one would expect as part of the clandestine plan concocted in the corridors of power by Dark Distant Bureaucratic Forces to close St. Helier Hospital or reduce it to a community cottage hospital satellite for another - perhaps private company - yet to be announced. Chuck all this management gobbledegook BSBV CCG Scoring in the jargon skip where it belongs. The only scoring that counts is the opinion of the local population who depend upon this good hospital and overall from my personal experience over 12 years I would score Haematology 10/10 and the rest of the Hospital 8/10 overall. I agree with Councillor Colin Stears's analysis in the report above. The public is being manipulated, once "Patients First", now it's "Clinically Led", once it was "Better Services Closer to Home" (BSCH) now suddenly it's "Better Services Better Value" (BSBV), care on the cheap distant from home. My own concept where B stands for the faceless bureaucrats destroying our wonderful treat all District General Hospital would be abbreviated to BUFO. Note the timing of this press release announcement softening you up for the imminent pronouncement: You've just expended your rare opportunity to vote in the elections so no danger of a protest affecting the CaMoron or Boris; £5m just allocated to St. Helier to expand it's minor injury A&E which we have already been told would be provided to the Hospital which was to lose its A&E Major facility. The CaMoron and his Cleggy Glove Puppet have already bulldozed through the NHS (privatisation) Act against almost universal opposition and as it appeared in no party's manifesto you were not even allowed to vote on it. With the ink on the Act hardly dry the schmoozing events have already begun with the CG people being invited to hospitality meetings put on by the private companies greedy to grab our public NHS funds for their profits and executive funny money salaries. Make sure you have your say and consider joining the public lobbying group 38 Degrees which is continuing to fight the battle for our wonderful, cherished NHS. It's obvious what is going to happen. Once St. Helier A&E Majors Department is shut down 999 ambulances will take you as an emergency to a distant hospital in Tooting or Croydon or Kingston. Then when they assess you as needing admission they will not bring you back to St. Helier. You will instead join the queue - you can already wait three hours at St. George's A&E Tooting - and the crush and the competition for a bed in the other hospital which will push you out before you feel ready because they "need the bed" because they have cut out the St. Helier beds. As the number of patients admitted to St. Helier Hospital wards decreases the Faceless Ones will start to shut down the wards and the beds they contain. With the already accomplished decimation of staff by the parachuted in hatchet man CEO and the bulldozers already planned to destroy Ferguson House named after a former MOH for Surrey the destruction of St. Helier Hospital will be complete. In the future whenever you want any serious treatment it will be go to the gates of the former St. Helier DGH and get the new tram extension to Tooting or Croydon. As St. George's has smelt the rat being offered to them and not taken on St. Helier it would make sense for the Royal Marsden Sutton to do so. RMH is already running some community services in a new development and if you recall the new St. Helier Hospital was approved by the majority of those consulted to be built adjacent to the RMH complex by Sutton Hospital. This would have saved money eg x-rays taken at St. Helier could be used by RMH instead of as now having to retake them because there is no structure for consulting them online. You may also recall the plan was scuppered by failed Health Secretary of the period the snooty Patricia Hewitt who blocked it because she wanted the new hospital built in a deprived area for jobs as though St. Helier Estate is full of unemployed brain surgeons etc. When she discovered that she had not done her research and there was a legal encumbrance to building on the green opposite the present hospital she just washed her hands of her whole mess and walked away leaving chaos. St. Helier is your hospital paid for by you, not the property of the politicians', nor the bureaucrats', nor the private companies. Don't let them get away with their dirty deeds and then at a later date have to rue it as you are desperate for treatment and are stuck in a traffic jam or stuck at home because there are no beds. If you think it won't happen remember the lovely, friendly and caring Carshalton War Memorial Hospital that was built by public subscription and somehow now is closed and a fence constructed around it with a private property sign. Michael Pantlin
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6:07am Sat 5 May 12

tjames says...

it is a dump
it is a dump tjames
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11:22am Sat 5 May 12

Michael Pantlin says...

tjames wrote:
it is a dump
What a lot of effort you put into that posting. Spend a lot of time on the loo and an expert on dumping.
[quote][p][bold]tjames[/bold] wrote: it is a dump[/p][/quote]What a lot of effort you put into that posting. Spend a lot of time on the loo and an expert on dumping. Michael Pantlin
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1:12pm Sat 5 May 12

tjames says...

no--i have been there and worked there--it needs demolition and a modern replacement
no--i have been there and worked there--it needs demolition and a modern replacement tjames
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11:25am Sun 6 May 12

Michael Pantlin says...

Not my experience in 35 periods of inpatient treatment over the past 12 years and weekly outpatient or day unit attendance. Maybe things looked up when you left your job there?
Not my experience in 35 periods of inpatient treatment over the past 12 years and weekly outpatient or day unit attendance. Maybe things looked up when you left your job there? Michael Pantlin
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